I can understand that it may not be the right choice for everyone, but for us, merging our two cultures has taught both sets of parents to be more tolerable. What's the purpose of learning Arabic if you cannot see moments of connection youre having with other people and be able to express them in that language? As for language, that was a compromise also, we speak English at home: my second language, my husband's third). i really lmao i`m egyptian 2 and seeing what we do in foreigner`s eyes was awesome like seeing it for the first time i really felt like living with u PS: what a shame egyptian girls r great in bed :D just kidding :P. poor boy :P im so thankful for living outside egypt!! Loved it. AL-Wahsha means to be alienated or desolated. While I agree that this is the case for the average Egyptian family, things do vary by class/ region. I'm gonna be honest religion is a big thing, i don't think it should be but unfortunately that's how our country is. As an American speaking different languages, most of the time I do not have language barriers, however with Arabic, it's a little bit difficult I admit. Hint, if the girl cant speak english, Shes probably from a poorer more religious traditional family hence the terrible experience. The man should use the feminine form when addressing his girlfriend/wife. any advises? Also are Lebanese parents like Egyptian parents? I am interested with an Egyptian girl and your post gave me some idea of their culture and I'm sure it will be helpful for me. It was also hard when he met my family, since none of them spoke nothing but our "mother language". Transcriberry can help with these translations. This is why I wanted to include it right after Hayati. Lesson learned: Unlike the infrequent visits to the in-laws that people are used to in the Western world, you can expect to see them constantly in Egypt. I was not even up for consideration for longer than two minutes. I don't know if it makes a sense.. need to ask u if this is really a big issue loving a Muslim girl? I'm sorry for being judgmental but I was so provoked by this. Hayati ( ) - "my life" Lebanese singer and actress Sabah with text in the background that says "ya hayati" (Oh my life), Sticker sold by Tameralahmarart Terms of endearment are used for a variety of reasons, such as parents addressing their children and lovers addressing each other. I worry that I am working very hard everyday while he is in Algeria contributing nothing. I'm not here to debate the merits of tons of gold, gold, gold, presents, dowries, and the paragraph upon paragraph that you wrote about the importance of these customs. Just had one phone call from whatsapp at the beginning, and chat was very common between us. Mi corazn. Just as awful that your parents just criticized you and did not really support you much. *If you have kids don't you ever think you can see them again if your wife wanted to punish you. Maybe you'll start using them with your loved ones, or *ahem* a special someone. It simply means my love or my darling. You dont have to be a medical professional to be a doctor in the Arab world. Getty Images. So you cant even kiss her until youre married? Glad to read your article. I am an Egyptian Canadian who grew up in Canada all my life. Lesson learned: Even in a country like Egypt where religion and family are number 1, possessions and status can still be a huge factor. Amarin means two moons. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This is only a recent phenomenon with the advent of the internet and is akin to texting language (LOL, etc..). YWZiN2ZkOWVkMmJlZWVkMTExMDMyYjQ1ZDYzZDcxYmZjZGEyYjdhYTVkZmE0 Good luck next time. as an egyptian girl I agree on all this .. but it doesnt mean that all girls, families & situations are the same in egypt.I had boyfriends n my family knewgold and jewels aren't life but its more like a gift for marriage n a chained money for the future if troubles are facedI am a muslim n yes I'd prefer to marry a man like me .. it would make life simpler for me atleast .. i mean if i loved someone who isn't muslim I cannot marry him.. ihe is free with his believes but I don't wanna take him where he shouldn't be. 1. Here is a simple conversation between mother and son in Levantine Arabic. 10 pints to the best answer!!!! Love comes first, and social pillars such as morals and religion will comfortably fall into place AFTER the love is experienced. Meaning: How beautiful! Auntie is so sweet. I am in my 20's and from America. I told you were extra when it comes to romance and endearment. (my dear, I really like (love) you!) I used to write her love letters in Arabic too. I'm a Muslim Egyptian Girl, and I can't agree less with wt u said cz its all true! Apart from. Aamu and ammati (Aa-mu and Am-ma-ti) These mean uncle or auntie, and are to be used with people you're familiar with. Mon coeur ("my heart"), ma moitie ("my other half"), ma cherie ("my darling"), and mon tresor ("my treasure") are all terms of endearment that we tend to hear in soap operas or anytime a charming foreigner appears on-screen. Gordito /_gordita _is used between partners as a term of endearment and is generally not seen as an offensive nickname. [removed] TravelingPseudonym 9 yr. ago. This meant everything about my mother and father, what they do and whether or not theyre together, as well as the extent of my religious commitment. Mon loulou / Ma louloute 22. By late I mean its common for men in Egypt not to be regarded as ready for marriage until theyre well into their mid-thirties. We're here for each other, and that quality is true for any relationship no matter what country either of you are from. It was a sad and abrupt end but shes got a family of her own now and things have worked out well for me too. M. Momminforlife. i dunno how ur relationship rili was, i dunno this girl, but i do knw the egyptian girl, the typical one! This kind of relationship does wonders for your target language skills. I couldnt agree more! I realized that she comes from a below-average background the moment you said she called you "ba6a". posted by HopperFan at 10:43 PM on March 30, 2009. You are my life, a light that has started my day, How much of my life before you was wasted, Oh my love, how much of my life has gone by, And my heart has seen no happiness before you. Those traits were what attracted me to her in the first place. My own experience is that Egypt is a miserable place for anyone who's out of the norm coming to Canada was like breathing for the first time. When I went home to Australia we maintained contact via Skype and telephone several times a day for a whole year. "Pet names for Ancient Egyptian children included: 'My Own', 'Only One', 'Beautiful Day' and 'Acceptable'." I called him bubba since the hospital which has developed into bub, bubs, and bubba butt. Sunshine Perfect nickname to remind a lady that she lights up your life. The shabka is more than just a ring its a set of gold jewellery (necklace, bracelets, earrings, etc.) You should always respect them. It's the response to which means "good night." 3. I found this amazing application for mobile (I am an iPhone fan, but they have it also for android), it's an online Arabic-English dictionary a very useful one when you want to look up a word in Arabic. A man is even judged on how much gold he gives his bride at the wedding. In Arabic, when it comes to love and describing the sheer beauty of a woman, we use Ammar. Another thing to be said is what you've noticed is completely the opposite of the Islamic instructions , Islam instructs people to get married as a young , and not to look to the wealth or beauty , It's ironic that early muslims used dates as dowry while now even lots of gold wouldn't be enough . welcome to the desert of real, as an Egyptian guy i preferred to stay single. With your significant other, you can use romantic Italian terms like: Gioia mia - "my joy" Biscottino - "little biscuit" Pasticcino - "cupcake" Mon biquet / Ma biquette 27. Mon nounours 23. I LOVE coming into contact and reading comments all throughout the internet from very conservative Muslims who deem situations such as mine as haram (sinful) and reflective of how her family must be failed (?) It happens. You can even turn people's names into terms of endearment by adding a mi in front of their name! 2 yr. ago. In some cultures, the term "babu" is a term of endearment for a loved one as well. I do not mean liberal in sense of an easing in moral and religious standards. Some terms of endearment can be used in many languages - "baby", "angel" and "sweetheart" for example. This Spanish term of endearment translates to "boy" or "girl". We've had our fair share of arguments, because of cultural differences and religion, but at the end of the day, we put all of it aside and focus on how much love we have for each other. Unfortunately, parents usually mis-use their rights of giving advice. The 20 years I lived in Egypt, it felt like living in a prison. Mon trsor 14. but, since u knw arabic now, have u heard of the word "TADBISA"? I asked them if that's what they wanted to do and I think the question confused them. On the plus side it did teach me to express a lot of things that I previously didnt know how to because I was always forced to search for ways to say them. mar means the moon and it is a beautiful way to express love. MDFhZWJmYzZjN2Q0YjE0NjI3Mjg0N2FmZmY1ZjI0OGYxNWRkNzUyM2ExYjQ0 By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Another challenge we face is he has a big circle of Egyptian friends All born and raised in Egypt. An old and charming handle from Egypt, mostly used for males, which dates back to the country's former Ottoman rule. Anyway, I just wanted to comment on #11, because I saw how big of a deal it was there. ZjMyNzQ5ZThlNzZhNDdhY2NjZjAwNzhiMzk0ZThlOTRlY2I1ZWZkYTY3MTYz Asking for a women's hand in marriage should be done by all guys, no matter the country. For example no privacy? But tell you what, the girl was playing you from Day 1 when she told you to meet her parents to have their permission. Brother Waleed Ahmed Najmeddine, a consultant at Ask About Islam, added: Interfaith marriages are generally not allowed in Islam except under certain conditions: {Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. daretelayam 2 yr. ago. I have Egyptian male friends whose fathers actually saved up for years to buy their sons an apartment (usually in the same building as their parents) to make it easier for them when they wanted to marry. Marwan and Menna are confessing their love to each other. I love you as much the sea Then I love you as much the moon. :). and I can tell that from the way you talk about your girl and how respectful you were to her traditions.. Did she call you batta hhh , its like calling you (sweetie) so don't worry she loved you! Hayati in Arabic means my life, but Omri or the word Omr actually means the time spent alive. I know nothing about Eygption culture or way of life which is wrong of me i met an eygption girl on holiday in eygpt, things were going good. This is cannot be generalized and I think customs and traditions if not harmful should be respected to some extent. Dating outside of your group can have nasty consequences for a lot of people. Just wanted to say that most of the modern Egyptian girls now are more dependent, modern and understanding. I told them that it wouldn't bother me at all, but if religion really mattered, I don't think he'd be interested in dating me anyway. This word is ashkara used all the time. I can only respect a women who believes in waiting for her true love. First reason is that she is 10 years younger than me (she is 25) we are really good friends and talk everyday even take lunch together everyday and I have given her some gifts like on Christmas I give her chocolate all the time and all but do u guys think if there's lot of age difference it will work? Maybe it's how he follows you to the bathroom (and pounds on the door while you're trying to poop . You made a really bad choice here! When uncle Bassam and aunt Sarah get here. My ex is from Egypt she's Muslim I'm Christian our 2 years relationship is over.. [] was a German friend that I had played Frisbee with in Cairo. Its the person you truly believe you belong with and that person is your rohi, which translates to my soulmate, Arabs are the only people who will ever understand this eini. Ya Amar ( ) Yes, the majority is, unfortunately, materialistic and like expensive gifts and gold and shabka, but there are many Egyptian girls who understand that all this is nothing but bullsh*t and there are parents who don't like to put so much pressure on the man proposing to their daughter as long as he's a real man in terms of responsibility, manners, personality, love and religion. My hearts beloved, Take a look at this early 2000s song by Raninn called Habib Albi. I guess I need some advice since you were in a very similar situation as me. 1. There are many things I found to be good about approaches to marriage in Egypt; though I do think that finance-wise there should be less materialism and more leniency. Any family from any country could concern themselves with these customs just as easily as not concerning themselves with these customs. When I told my boyfriend that my parents are religious and don't believe in premarital sex, he thought I was joking. That was until a bunch of unforeseen problems came our way that threw a spanner in the works and brought the whole thing to a halt. It is one of the most widely used terms of endearments in the region, and chances are they are the first Arabic words learned by a new arrival. Its the bright light shining on a dark night. Hi Donovan, I'm from Egypt .. and all that are right , totally right and normal . but if you are serious about the relationship you can go back when you ready,as soon as possible of course, when they say its over, its NOT over yet until you gave up. You lived in here -Egypt-, almost got married to a FAMILY which you've nothing in common with, and you're still breathing with a heart still beating, with no curses and so.. yet :D! Let's continue looking at how other family members are addressed. This is driving me crazy I love her so much. Mon bb 17. This is another way to use the word 7abib. Every language is full of pet names people give to one another when theyre in love. If I was, my life experience would tell me that I probably would not be so excepting of her families devotion. Like I said I think the key is make them play by your rules not there's. A girl has to have her parents approval to get married; she's obliged to do so upon Islamic teachings, but too bad parents use this against her, forcing her to marry someone THEY want. The man should use the feminine form when addressing his girlfriend/wife. Egyptians have an entirely separate culture and history of their own; when it comes to relations with the Arab world = they only speak Arabic, and it ends there. Man,I'm an Egyptian and You have killed it .Most of the marriages in Egypt -if not all of them - are the way you've told it ,but seriously religion is really what's screwing us here . I am an Egyptian guy living in the states, and I really like your post. ! now a days, most of the girls in the middle and higher class choose her boyfriend and they date up-till they feel really like they want to be staying forever. The honorific "ji" is sometimes added as a suffix to create the double honorific "babuji", which in northern and eastern parts of India is a term of respect . Haha, it's really easy to not take into consideration one's culture. You can't imagine how horrible it is for a girl like me to live in that extra conservative society. I see a beautiful young girl that can reach the stars because she is not control by fear. Arabic is a sentimental and a beautiful language, we call our loved ones as our soul and lives. I really did enjoy reading this and I had a few laughs specially at the part of "Bathroom is the only place for privacy" Actually not even there for sometime you'd find people knocking on the door telling you to hurry the hell up 'enty bt3mely a gowa? He has written something in Arabic to an Egyptian friend of mine that might shed some light on what happened. I must say though, that there are cultures even more repressive and primitive than ours. For me is enough to look in her eyes to know why. You know all the words to this term now! I am an egyptian woman myself married to an Austrian..I laughed at the parts of the arabic love terminology you used and I feel bad for the challenges you have been through. When it comes to learning family members in Arabic from Arabic textbooks, you usually find a family tree showing mother, father, sister, etc. It is the most common expression of love in the Arabic language said to friends, children, and even strangers. this only happens with the blind dates. Create your account now and join thousands of other Arabic learners from around the world. Things could have been much easier if you dated someone from a different social class. n no it wont be like two families getting involved .. just me n him against the world! But I'd understand ur excuse for doing tht (u knw ur a foreigner n ur experimenting sth new just to see how far it'll go). I wanted to marry a man who loves me that much I did not care how much he makes or if he could afford a house. We had a romantic spot in Cairo by the Nile where a lot of couples go but the place was supervised at all times by older Egyptian men. Thus, you at least needed to meet other girls to make a constructive idea about how things go in Egypt. I am from Czech Republic, I accepted Islam few years ago and my husband is from India. Generated by Wordfence at Tue, 2 May 2023 5:33:24 GMT.Your computer's time: document.write(new Date().toUTCString());. I was born in Egypt from European decents father Greek mother French dont look Egyptian but speak it quite fluently, came to Australia when i was 20 went back in 2007 my roots are still there! Mon ange 15. You're overgeneralizing, am afraid. Whether its being said to their kids or each other, the word habibi(ti) is always heard. Ms Que vs Ms De In Spanish: Definitions & Examples, The Real Meaning Of C'est La Vie In French, Update On My First Week In Korea With A Video Of My Apartment, 3 Week Korean Language Progress (+ Alphabet Advice). YTZiZmI5MzAzOGZmMDNmMmZkNmFiZjRhNmYxMzk5ZjAzNzg3MDNjYjM2NmJi I wouldn't have put up with it. Its about the union of two families and this includes all the extended relatives as well. He doesn't speak nor English nor none of my native languages (Ukrainian/Russian). Note: In Arabic speaking countries, children and young adults address elders who are not family as aunt and uncle to show respect. So long story short I got really tired of everyday problems and decided to get a divorce. Also, keep in mind that Egyptian girls will get married off to Egyptian guys only because there's a lot of them. Dude, I am sorry for your experience. The opinions of pre-marital sex is present in all religions. 7abibi is also frequently used between friends, members of the family or young children. This doesnt mean that rules arent broken however. Getting called cute is fun, but getting asked how cute you make all the difference. And her flexibility with him has really given me hope that something could work out since she's the tough one to please.I'm neither Muslim or of Arab / European descent and I'm Christian so I just want to know any tips/advice/expectations in getting married with this man. lbbd parking visitors permit,
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